John YOUNG OF CLAN LAMONT OF SCOTLAND

John YOUNG OF CLAN LAMONT OF SCOTLAND[1]

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  • Name John YOUNG OF CLAN LAMONT OF SCOTLAND 
    Born 1668  of Ballygowan, Antrim Parish, Antrim, Northern Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    • Event Description: He died in St. Peter's Parish. It is a Presbyterian Church in Poolsville, MD or Dublin, Ireland
    Gender Male 
    Died NOT 1747 in Augusta Co., VA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I22878  Ancestrees
    Last Modified 19 Aug 2022 

    Father Andrew LAMONT YOUNG,   b. 1644, Toward Castle, Cowal, Argyll and Bute, Scotland, United Kingdom Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 1727, , Antrim, Ulster, Northern Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 83 years) 
    Mother Mary ADAIR,   b. 1646, Bally Clair, Antrim, Northern Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 15 Feb 1750, Antrim, Antrim, Northern Ireland (Aged 70) Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 104 years) 
    Married Aft 1665  , Antrim, Ulster, Northern Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Family ID F3002  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Lady Elizabeth Anne "Annie" HOUSTON,   b. Abt 1670, Bally Clair, Antrim, Northern Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 13 May 1770, Augusta, Virginia, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 100 years) 
    Children 
     1. Stella YOUNG,   b. 1696, Antrim, Antrim, Northern Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1713, Antrim, Antrim, Northern Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 17 years)
     2. Hugh YOUNG,   b. 1699, Ballygown, Antrim, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 10 Sep 1756, , Augusta, VA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 57 years)
     3. Lady Sarah "Sally" YOUNG,   b. 3 Jan 1700, Larne, Antrim, Northern Ireland. Find all individuals with events at this location
     4. John Young,   b. 1701, Antrim, Antrim, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar. 1747, Beverly Manor, Augusta, VA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 46 years)
     5. Charles YOUNG,   b. 1703, Antrim County, Northern Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 20 May 1783, , Augusta, VA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 80 years)
     6. Jacob Young,   b. Bef. 1706, of Antrim, Northern Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. of Cecil Co., Maryland Find all individuals with events at this location
    +7. William YOUNG,   b. 1705, Antrim, Antrim, Northern Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     8. Jane YOUNG,   b. 1707, , Antrim, Ulster, Northern Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1807, Augusta, Virginia, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 100 years)
     9. Matthew YOUNG,   b. 1708, of Antrim, Ulster, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 20 May 1783, Augusta, Virginia, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 75 years)
     10. James C. YOUNG,   b. 21 Dec 1709, , Antrim, Ulster, Northern Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 20 Nov 1755, Whistle Creek, Augusta, Virginia, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 45 years)
     11. Robert YOUNG, Sr.,   b. 1 Mar 1711, Larne, Antrim, Northern Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 20 May 1762, Staunton, Augusta, Virginia, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 51 years)
    +12. Rebecca YOUNG,   b. 1715, , , , Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 24 Mar 1780, Ditchley, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 65 years)
    Last Modified 19 Aug 2022 
    Family ID F3011  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • He is likely the oldest Young in Cecil Co., MD in 1720 when he is asked to preach and see if enough Presbyterians have moved into the region to have minister established there. The fact that he was asked to do this and has the title of Mr. indicates age and land holdings.

      An attorney, Janice McAlpine, pointed out that all of the Youngs of Beverly Manor and Naked Creek cannot be the sons of John who died in 1747 as his closest next of kin is listed as his brother, James. What this suggests to me is that we descend through James instead as we have triangulations representing John Lamont Young and his wife Annie.

      With new evidence and understanding from Attorney Janice McAlpine, I do not believe that this John ever came to the American colonies. Most of what has been attributed to him in the colonies actually was about his likely children. His stated son's John and James owned land in Augusta County by 1738 and appear to be the earliest Youngs in the records. Robert's family came by 1740. Hugh followed in 1740/1741 according to Hugh's son John's testimony when he was 81 in 1818.

      We now know for certain that John and James of Back Creek in the Beverly Patent of Augusta Co., Virginia was not the John married to Annie Houston. It took a lawyer and descendant, Janice McAlpine to discern this. It was assumed that the early John and James C. Young on Back Creek was the John married to Annie and his brother James from Ireland. However, John died intestate (without leaving a will) in 1747. His named brother James Young was the court appointed administrator of the estate rather than the executor of a will. Multiple things are significant here. The John who died in 1747 had no descendants or heirs. We know this because his brother James was referred to as "his nearest heir" in the records. Attorney Janice McAlpine points out that by law, a brother could only be an heir if the deceased had no living descendants.

      The second significant point here is since John who died in 1747 left no children then he was not John Young who married Annie Houston in Ireland and left a number of sons and daughters.

      Thirdly, it means that we also do not have proof that John married to Annie has a brother James that I have seen other than the misinterpretation of the administration of John who died in 1747 in Augusta Co., Virginia.
      Let this last paragraph sink in. It has far reaching effect on how we have interpreted the data up to 2010.

      One more clear pattern needs to be noted about this family. The following persons interact in the land, road and court records from Beverly and the Borden Platts which suggests they are siblings: John, James C., Hugh, Robert and Nancy. Sarah, often attributed to this group of siblings, lived on Naked Creek with her husband and all interactions in her and her son Robert's family occur with Youngs in the Naked Creek area. In other words, she might not be the sibling of John Young.

      Even so, DNA evidence indicates that my Sarah Young is descended from John and Annie Houston's ancestral tree. I have 9 triangulations between 5 persons who descend from John and Annie Houston Young between 5.2 and 6.6 cM's with my Mother's DNA. She was born in 1916 helping us to get these. These are on chromosome 15 from 29,000,000-31,000,000. We don't know how the Naked Creek group ties in to John and Annie Houston Young, but we know they do.


  • Sources 
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