Marie SOMNER

Marie SOMNER[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]

Female Abt 1562 - 1631  (~ 69 years)

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  • Name Marie SOMNER  [7
    Born Abt 1562  Maperton, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [8
    Gender Female 
    Died 1631  Curry Rivel, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Buried Currie Rivell, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [9
    Person ID I1836  Ancestrees
    Last Modified 8 Jul 2022 

    Father Richard? SOMNER,   b. Abt 1526,   d. Dec 1590, Othery, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 64 years) 
    Family ID F7249  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Marmaduke COATE,   b. Bef 1552, Of Curry Rivel, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1624, Curry Rivel, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 72 years) 
    Married 6 Nov 1575  Weston Zoyland, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 7
    Children 
     1. Rachel COATE,   b. Aft 1576, , Somersetshire, ENG Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1626  (Age ~ 50 years)
     2. Mary COATE,   b. Abt 1579, , Somersetshire, ENG Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1626, Of Curry Rivel Parish, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 46 years)
     3. Thomas COATE,   b. Abt 1580, Bridgewater, Somersetshire, ENG Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jul 1628, North Petherton, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 48 years)
     4. William COATE,   b. 1582, Hambridge, Curry Rivel, Sommerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 6 Nov 1658, Curry Rivel, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 76 years)
     5. Henry COATE, of Hambridge,   b. Abt 1595, Of Curry Rivel, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 1662, Hambridge, Curry Rivel Parish, Somersetshire, ENG Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 67 years)
     6. Placeholder COATE
    Last Modified 8 Jul 2022 
    Family ID F6614  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Documents
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  • Notes 
    • I finally found the marriage record for this Marmaduke and Marie. In the index, her name is listed as Maxine Flinner, but when you enlarge the original book it's in, it looks like Marie Smner. This clerk left out vowels when not needed phonetically. In this case the S is represented by 2 small f looking letters. It's possible that it is how the clerk wrote Skinner, which is the same name in the soundex search on freereg.org.uk as Somner but the small k would normally be very flowery and was a very simple uncrossed f looking letter in her marriage record. We don't believe the double f letters represent f in this case as there were not translations for fnner or fmner in all of Somerset in freereg.org.uk.

      She wrote her will on Nov. 2, 1626 in Curry Rivel, Co. Somerset as a widow. She named all the children and the number of grandchildren she had by each child in her will which was probated in 1631. These included her son, William Coate and his 4 children (William, Cresset); her son, Thomas Coate and his 3 children (Mary, Joan and Elizabeth); her daughter Rachel German and her 3 children; to John Woodborne's 3 children, to Mary Woodborne, daughter of John Woodborne, to John the son of John Woodborne; to Joane Woodborne, the daughter of John Woodborne; to her son Henry Coate a chest in the hall and after his decease to his son Marmaduke Coate; and to her kinswoman, Alice Skinner. (Note: Alice Skinner is likely the Alse Skinner, widow who died in Dunster, Somerset, England and was buried there in St. George Parish on Aug 12, 1632. Many Skinner's lived in Dunster. She could also have had her surname misinterpreted and be the Alse Somer who died in 1638 in Othery, Somerset, England who was a widow.) She gave the rest of her goods after division of her debts to John Woodborne and Henry Coate. She named these last 2 her executors. She does not explain her relationship to John Woodborne, father of Mary, John and Joan Woodborne in her will. Her name was spelled Marie Coate in this document. (I believe they are great grand children via a marriage record dated 1655 to a Marmaduke Coate indicating Mary Woodborne was born before 1626 and was a gr. granddaughter by age.) The witnesses to this will were Roger Cole, William Sawble and William Sawellysis with his mark of an X. I'm assuming because she thinks so highly of John Woodborne, that his wife was a deceased daughter of her and Marmaduke Coate's. Her kinswoman, Alice Skinner was likely near her age with Skinner being her married name. The will was proved in Taunton in 1631.

      The fact that it and any of these Somerset wills that I have summarized in my Somerset Coate records survived the bombings of World War II says that they had 2nd copies hand transcribed at an alternate location near the time they were created sent to Taunton, Somerset, England. All wills of the wealthy were duplicated and sent to Taunton. Those did not get bombed in World War II.

      Her most likely parent is a Rich/Richard Somner/Sommer from Othery which is 3.6 miles from Weston Zoyland where Marmaduke and Mary married. It is now a part of Bridegwater where Marmaduke Coate was from before he and Mary settled in adjacent Curry Rivell. Here is how the Somner's are grouped in Othery, Bridgewater and Weston Zoyland

      Mary Smner/Somner b. bef 1560 m. Marmaduke Coate in 1575 in Weston Zoyland.

      Francis Smner/Somner b. bef 1560 m. Joan Bragge in 1575 in Weston Zoyland

      Margaret Smner/Somer b. bef 1562 m. William (?h)inge in 1577 in Weston Zoyland

      Alice Somner buried Apr 4, 1551, d. of Richard Somner in Baltonsborough, Bridgewater, England which is 13 miles from Othery

      William Somner, baptized Mar 24, 1551/2 in Baltonsborough, son of Richard

      Joan d. of Richard, b. 1560 in Othery (Joan Somner and John Howell married in 1598)

      Isabell d. of Richard, b. 1561 in Othery

      Thomas s. of Rich Sommer baptized 1563

      Richard s. of Richard Sommer baptized 1574

      Richard d. 1590

      John Somer, b. 1560 in Bridgwater, Somerset, England. Father unlisted.

      Jone, b. 1562, in Bridgwater. Father unlisted.

      Robert b 1564 in Bridgwater. Father unlisted.

      Mary Somer b. 1562 in Maperton, Somerset which is 26 miles from Weston Zoyland where Mary married Marmaduke Coate if this is the same Mary.

      Richard Cox and (H)abell Somner m. in 1562

      Robert s. of John Sommer baptized 1570

      William Sommer and Joan Cox m. in 1569

      Thomas s. of William baptized 1571

      Robert s. of William Sommer baptized 1576

      Mary Somer b. 1574 to unknown parents in Bridgewater (She is not our Mary)

      William Cox and Elizabeth Sommer in 1572

      Mary Sommer and Bartabyn Willaway m. in 1577 in Bridgewater

      Walter Somer and Elizabeth Harris in 1587

      Joan d. of Walter baptized 1592

      Richard s. of Walter Sommer baptized 1597

      John s. of Walter baptized 1602

      Robert s. of M.W. Sommer baptized 1589

      Joan d. of Ales Sommer baptized 1590 (Joan Somner and Joseph Adezfee in 1604)

      Ales Somner and Thomas Fane m. on 21 Apr 1594John s. of John Somner baptized 1595

      Sabilla d. of Jo. Sommer baptized and buried 1599

      Margaret Somner and John Cox were married in 1596

      Mary Sommer d. 1603 in Bridgewater

      Joan, d. of Edward Sommer/Somner baptized 1605

      William Sommer and Joan Cox m. in 1612

      William s. of Edward baptized 1613, Jul 13

      Thomas s. of Edward baptized 1613, Jul 13Thomas s. of John baptized 1616 (Thomas is probably the grandson of Walter or John above)

      Not all of their births are accounted for in the church records of Othery including Mary Somner's b. bef 1563.

  • Sources 
    1. [S3016] Somerset England Church of England Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1531-1812.

    2. [S3060] Ernest S. Park, Ancestors & Descendants of Marmaduke Coate of South Carolina and Ohio (unpub, c1950, 1960).

    3. [S2823] Louise E. Jones to Eloise Worcester Letter dated 1984 at 36 E. Hickory Rd, Lombard, IL 60148 In L. Dudick files (C-199).

    4. [S2827] Elizabeth Murphy Cann to Linda Coate Dudick Letter dated May 1, 1985 at 2852 So. Webster, Denver, CO. 80227 In L. Dudick's files.

    5. [S2833] John Ammel to Linda Coate Dudick Letter dated Feb. 29, 1996 at R.R.1, Parker, KS 66072-9801 In L. Dudick's Files.

    6. [S995] Coate, Marmaduke, Will (Tauton, Co. Somersetshire, England).

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    8. [S2671] Coats, Gary W., Descendants of Marmaduke Coate Database.

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