Marmaduke COATE

Marmaduke COATE[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]

Male Bef 1552 - 1624  (~ 72 years)

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  • Name Marmaduke COATE  [7, 8
    Born Bef 1552  Of Curry Rivel, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Event Description:
    Gender Male 
    Died 1624  Curry Rivel, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [7, 9
    Buried Currey Rivell, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
    Person ID I1831  Ancestrees
    Last Modified 8 Jul 2022 

    Family Marie SOMNER,   b. Abt 1562, Maperton, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1631, Curry Rivel, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 69 years) 
    Married 6 Nov 1575  Weston Zoyland, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 8
    Children 
     1. Rachel COATE,   b. Aft 1576, , Somersetshire, ENG Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1626  (Age ~ 50 years)
     2. Mary COATE,   b. Abt 1579, , Somersetshire, ENG Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1626, Of Curry Rivel Parish, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 46 years)
     3. Thomas COATE,   b. Abt 1580, Bridgewater, Somersetshire, ENG Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jul 1628, North Petherton, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 48 years)
     4. William COATE,   b. 1582, Hambridge, Curry Rivel, Sommerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 6 Nov 1658, Curry Rivel, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 76 years)
     5. Henry COATE, of Hambridge,   b. Abt 1595, Of Curry Rivel, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 1662, Hambridge, Curry Rivel Parish, Somersetshire, ENG Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 67 years)
     6. Placeholder COATE
    Last Modified 8 Jul 2022 
    Family ID F6614  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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  • Notes 
    • The oldest Coate in Somerset, England according to I.G.I. records is a Robert Cotes, b. abt 1140 in Fairbanks, Somerset, England. His daughter Margaret, was supposedly born in Cotes, Eccelshall, Staffordshire, England suggesting he might have come from Eccelshall. Staffordshire is the county where the oldest Cotes are known to have originated. If these trees are correct, then it's entirely possible that our Marmaduke goes back from Cotes of early Staffordshire, England in the Eccelshell branch. YDNA evidence supports his ancient lines going back to Staffordshire.: The best theory we have for our Coate line is that it descends through this Robert, b 1140. Fairbanks was in Somerset or Shropshire depending upon time frame and is 130 miles from the oldest known Coate's who lived in Bridgwater, Somerset, England.

      Early Coates would have been more likely to travel south from Fairbanks to the Bristol Channel and go to Bridgewater by ship. Then the land travel would have been more like 80 miles of distance.: Marmaduke's name in his marriage to Marie was spelled Cote. He married Marie Somner on Nov. 6, 1575 in Weston Zoyland, 3 miles from where he lived in Curry Rivel. They supposedly raised their children in Curry Rivel. (See further explanation below.): Marmaduke's will was written on Mar 4 1617 when he is listed "of Curry Revel". This 1617 date is the oldest date I've seen for the Coate name appearing in Curry Rivel, suggesting the family could have come from another Parish before that time period. It named his wife, Mary, and sons, William (a legacy), Thomas, (a legacy) and Henry (pasture in Bindiche "together with common of Estones in the same Bindiche to have and to hold the said Henry Coate for and during the residue of the terms of four score years..." and daughters, Rachel and Mary and two grandchildren through his son William named John and Joane. (C-253c)

      This Marmaduke's wife's name has been listed as Mary/Marie Skinner by theory since Marie named kin Alice Skinner in her will. Other than that, there is no evidence of same. Skinner would have likely been Alice's married name.: I've finally found his marriage record. It was extremely difficult to decifer in an odd old English script. In an index of Somerset marriage records, his wife is listed as Maxine Flinner in 1575 in Weston Zoyland. Weston Zoyland was 3 miles from Curry Rivel, England. I had been studying all original documents on Coates in Somerset for 4 months when I found this marriage for Marmaduke Cote and Maxine Flinner and could immediately see the first name was mistranscribed. Her first name was Marie. Upon a serious study of her surname, I discovered it was Smner in the efficient manner the clerk had. There are multiple Somners in the area that marry in Weston Zoyland. Please study the following important records.: (See ex: [https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/60856/42886_1831109331_1079-00031/3274786?backurl=https://www.ancestry.com/family- tree/person/tree/156863795/person/112065703116/facts/citation/522095021473/edit/record] for the original marriage record. Then study the uncommon letter styles the recorder used at the following site to discern the name of Marmaduke's wife: https://fh.familysearch.org/system/files/team/AIT/fsinformation/Resource_Guide/en/Old_English.pdf. The small r in Marie that the recorder used looks like an x. Small e's look a bit like a small o. The S he used at the beginning of several persons of the same surname as Marie used the Capital S that is the 23rd choice out of 26 choices on page 5 of the website linked above. It looks like a printed Fl to the untrained eye. Then to make it that much harder, the clerk of courts left out letters or abbreviated names in the interest of efficiency and spelled her last name Smner. His version of William on the pages looks like Wittm. He even used 2 different capital S's in his work to further complicate matters too. I had spent the entire summer deciphering old English script to sort all of the Coats in Somerset, England. Her name is definitely Marie Somner and certainly is difficult to translate correctly. It's why it took so long to find! There were 2 other siblings or cousins who married within a couple years of her. One was Francis Somner/Smner to Joan Bragge in 1575 and the other was William (?h)inge and Margaret Somner/Smner in 1577 all in Weston Zoyland.

      The original name Coate first appeared in the highlands of Scotland between 800 and 1000 A.D. as Coutts, Coats, and Coates. They were a sept or sub-clan of the Farguharson Clan which branched from the clan Shaw in Scotland. (C-2021). To see where these clans lived, there is a site on the Internet that has an appropriate map at ysiwyg://102/htt;://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/3145/scotmap.h tml. This clan was one of the most faithful supporters of the "House of Stewart". (C-2247 b, c):

      The first person of this name that has been found in England was in 1167, when Thomas de Cotes was knighted. He held land in the hamlet of Cotes in Staffordshire. The Coat of Arms of a Cock with the motto "Watchful and Bold" was adopted later by this family. (C-614L): The surname has been stated to have one of two meanings. 1) Cot or Cote meaning hut as in cottage or coat as in garment. 2) Coed/coid meaning wood. Until the 17th century, the name was usually spelled Cotes in England. (C-2158): It's important to note, that English records before 1642 are rare for baptismal, marriage and burial making it a bit difficult to trace previous to this date. Some will records existed before 1642 and many of all of these records were in Latin. Marmaduke's name appears to have been Marmaduci in some Curry Rival records because of this.: Even though this ancestral couple is so far back from us, there are tentative indications where DNA is suggesting we have our line traced correctly through the best current technique which is triangulation. They are as follows:: Marmaduke Coate bef 1552 & Mary Tentative: Chromosome 12: 20465327-21761436 2.2 cM's, Gedmatch #'s Z397630, M134445, A631906 : Marmaduke Coate bef 1552 & Mary Tentative: Chromosome 12: 21064601-21865495 gedcom's 595579, 299684 Gedmatch #'s Z397630, T455875, M134445: Marmaduke Coate 1552 & Mary Tentative: Chromosome 20: 18944125-19594148 8C/Niece gedcom's: 595579, 299684, 194406, Gedmatch #'s: Z397630, T455875, M134445: Even better, we have the best proof that you can get via an Australian cousin's YDNA which shows us that we are absolutely both descended from Henry Coate "The Elder", Marmaduke and Marie's son. That is the Most Recent Common Ancestor for them and many persons in our YDNA group at FTDNA including me.


      Here are the Coate's of Curry Rivel records as they are currently published in 2016 thanks to familysearch.com.: Alise COAT Burial 2 OCT 1657 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Suzan COAT Burial 6 MAR 1664/5 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Alice? COAT Burial 30 OCT 1679 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: John COAT Burial 6 JAN 1692/3 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Joane COAT- Baptism:06 Sep 1696 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Rebecca COAT Burial 26 JUL 1696 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: William COAT- Baptism:23 Apr 1699 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Mary COAT- Baptism:23 Apr 1699 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: William COAT Burial 2 MAY 1699 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Marmaduke COAT- Baptism:25 Mar 1700 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Aubrey COAT- Baptism:13 Jun 1700 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Marmaduke COAT Burial 30 JUL 1700 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Mary COAT- Baptism:16 Sep 1701 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Jeffrey COAT- Baptism:18 Oct 1701 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: William COAT- Baptism:20 Aug 1702 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Anne COAT- Baptism:02 Sep 1703 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Isaac COAT- Baptism:09 Jan 1703/4 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Jacob COAT: Baptism 09 Jan 1703/4 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Marmaduke COAT- Baptism:26 Oct 1704 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Isaac COAT Burial 21 MAY 1704 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Marmaduke COAT- Baptism:23 Aug 1705 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: * COAT- Baptism:17 Nov 1705 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Marmaduke COAT Burial 20 APR 1705 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Sarah COAT Burial 29 APR 1705 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Mary COAT: Thomas COOK Marriage 20 Feb 1706 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Mary COAT- Baptism:06 Mar 1705/6 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Moses COAT- Baptism:31 Aug 1707 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Moses COAT Burial 20 FEB 1707/8 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Ambrose? COAT Burial 30 MAY 1708 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Elizabeth WEBB: Jacob COAT Marriage 01 Mar 1739 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: John COAT- Baptism:07 Sep 1740 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Elizabeth COAT Burial 6 Sep 1741 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Elizabeth TAYLOR: Aaron COAT Marriage 05 Nov 1742 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register] Detail: Elizabeth COAT: Thomas SEAGAR Marriage 25 Mar 1753 Somerset Curry Rivel (St Andrew) [Parish Register].

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